Either to be thankful to my heavenly Father for giving me life, or to be grateful that my ancestors consciously decided to evolve into more complex organisms and leave the swamp!!
I haven't heard of a THIRD choice yet!
are you on the earth so see how much you can give or how much you can get ?.
how so ?.
Either to be thankful to my heavenly Father for giving me life, or to be grateful that my ancestors consciously decided to evolve into more complex organisms and leave the swamp!!
I haven't heard of a THIRD choice yet!
so we all know of the parable / illustration at matt 7:13.
"go in through the narrow gate, because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones finding it, or going in through it".
here is a brain snapping thought that hit me!:.
I think it's common knowledge to many that there are other religions which are increasing far faster than JW's. A sister was stunned yesterday when I informed her that there are millions more Mormons than JW's on planet earth!
So there are "other roads" apparently more spacious!
i just wanted to openly apologize to anyone that i have ever offended on this website.
i have been thinking about this lately.
we all seem to go through the same various stages of learning ttatt, anger, sorrow, frustration, bible champion, agnostic, atheist, ect.
Hey DD - I'm still in, and you should see my wife trying to calm me down after something's been said or done at a meeting, or a comment in a publication! Especially the recent money-grabbing letter!! I detest the corruption which we are hopefully exiting from soon!
We've all got to let off steam sometimes - controlled yes - but let it out!
Just be delighted that you are on the outside looking in.
All the other hamsters are still turning the Org's wheel - getting nowhere fast - as they stare up at the G.B.
watchtower has said that jesus is not the mediator of anyone but for the anointed.
then they tell you that they are jehovah's organization and that the flock should obey them.. basically, the watchtower corp. and it's governing body is taking the place of jesus as the mediator for people.
christianity, even by it's name, focuses on making jesus known.
REPETITION FOR EMPHASIS - ESPECIALLY FOR QUESTIONING LURKERS!
Isaiah 62:2 - "... be called by a new name, which the very mouth of Jehovah will designate.
Acts 11:26 - "the disciples were by divine providence called Christians." (NOT JW's or Mormons or Catholics etc.)
Matthew 10:18 - ".....for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.
Mark 13:9 - "......before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them."
Acts 1:8 - "You will be witnesses of me...."
John 1:15 - "John bore witness about him..." [JESUS]
John 5:37 - "the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me."
John 8:18 - "the Father who sent me bears witness about me."
John 15:26,27 - "..will bear witness about me; and YOU in turn, are to bear witness."
Acts 4:17,18 - ...upon the basis of this (Jesus') .... upon the basis of the name of Jesus.
Acts 10:39 - "And we are witnesses of all the things he [Jesus] did..."
Acts 10:43 - "To him [Jesus] all the prophets bear witness....."
Acts 13:31 - "who are now his (Jesus') witnesses to the people.
Acts 22:15 - "because you are to be a witness for him [Jesus] to all men......"
Acts 22:20 - "......the blood of Stephen your [Jesus'] witness was being spilled..."
Acts 23:11 - "..... a thorough witness on the things about me in Jerusalem..."
Acts 26:16 -"I [Jesus]..choose you as an attendant and a witness........respecting me"
1 Corinthians 1:6 - "even as the witness about the Christ..........."
1 Tim. 2:6 - "......what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times."
2 Timothy 1:8 - "............of the witness about our Lord.. [Christ]"
1 John 5:9 - "the witness God gives...the fact that he has borne witness concerning his Son."
Revelation 1:9 - "....for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 3:8 - ...."and you kept my word and did not prove false to my name."
Revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 17:6 - "........and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."
Revelation 19:10 -".....the work of witnessing to Jesus.... bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 20:4 - "............ for the witness they bore to Jesus."
(1 Corinthians 1:2) ....with all who....are calling upon the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ. . .
James 2:7 - "They blaspheme the fine name by which YOU were called, do they not"?
1 Peter 4:14,16 - If YOU are being reproached for the name of Christ, YOU are happy, because the [spirit] of glory, even the spirit of God, is resting upon YOU. But if [he suffers] as a Christian, let him not feel shame, but let him keep on glorifying God in this name."
(John 3:18) ....he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God
(Acts 2:38) ....be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ......
(Acts 3:6) ...In the name of Jesus Christ the Naz·a·rene´, walk!....
(Acts 4:10) ....in the name of Jesus Christ the Naz·a·rene......"
(Acts 8:16) ....they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
(Acts 9:27) .....and how in Damascus he had spoken boldly in the name of Jesus.
(Acts 10:48) With that he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
(Acts 16:18) "I order you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her."
(Acts 19:5) On hearing this, they got baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
is that i was born into this cult, taught and believed that i was going to live forever, , that i was never going to have to die.
now i am in my mid 30's realizing that this life is all there is and that after that i am dead forever and i am terrified.
i don't want this to be all there is, , i don't want to just live a few years on this beautiful planet and then become non existent forever!
Try and start with a clean slate, and put to one side the propaganda that many sources of "teaching" perpetuate.
Don't believe what ANYONE tells you about God or evolution. Base your knowledge/faith in what your personal search uncovers, and what your own heart and mind tell you harmonises with reason.
Whether you decide that there is a supernatural creator of everything in existence or that everything was created by a big bang, is your personal choice.
When I used to have no real knowledge of either choice, I used to tell the guys I worked with, "Just enjoy life as much as you can boys, because this ain't a dress-rehearsal for something better. You're only on this planet for 840 months, so make the most of it!".
Your conclusions are what will give you acceptance and contentment - and peace within yourself.
I hope your search brings you the peace you need.
been lurking for a while on here and thought i'd jump in.
a great deal of many thoughtful posts on here but have to say am a bit turned off with the 'rabid apostate' ones!.
my history- was raised in a divided household, mum converted to jw when pregnant with me back in 1970, dad was never jw but was supportive of taking us to meetings, assemblies etc.
Hi KIKURA, welcome. there are many diverse opinions and here.
I've gone beyond the REM stage - I've lost my religion, but keeping my faith; just finalising the exit strategy!
Hope you enjoy your time here!
just heard from my daughter,her husbands mother has just sent him a text to tell him his grandmother has died.
no telephone call,no visit.
his crime?
When the blind lead the blind................
However, I firmly believe that MANY who are near the top of the Org pyramid are not blind - they know exactly what they are doing!
Even countless D.O.'s, C.O.'s, missionaries, Bethelites & Gileadites must see through the "veil" of deceit & false teachings of their self-glorified Governing Body.
Sadly, those at bottom are totally mind-numbed by the whole carrot-stick propaganda!
russel is burried under the pyramid.
according to none other than frederick franz himself, in his own words!.
i read some wt trolls on here trying to say that he is under the marker a few feet away.. that is not true.
VILLAGEGIRL - Well summed up!
just asking .. when an organisation makes money from investments , contributions , bequeaths , real estate , etc., dealings , where does it go from a not for profit organisation to a profit organisation .....i`m confused ....where is the line of demarcation as to what is a not for profit and a profitable organisation.. smiddy.
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Stab-in-the-dark:
that there are no shareholders receiving dividends from the money pouring in, and that all funds must be "accounted" for, as being used solely for the "charitable" purposes as laid out in the charity's own statement of its aims and purpose.
P.S. Who therefore is responsible for vetting and publishing those accounts? Can a charity in the U.S. or U.K. refuse to divulge its accounts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yxineydnky&feature=player_detailpage.
RELIGIONISM - Like that word!!